NOT SETTLED

Can you build a kingdom without a king?

Genesis 11 uses one word twice — settled — and once you see it, you can't unsee it. The builders of Babel settle, then Abram's father Terah settles in Haran, one stop short of the promised land. In this episode of Visionary Huddle, Lucas Cecilio traces what "settling" actually means: not contentment with your house or your job, but the moment your pursuit dies and you start building a name for yourself out of your own strength.

We get into the Tower of Babel as the original blueprint for ambition without God, why that impulse gets called demonic(and why selfishness is the modern word for it), how Acts 2 reverses Babel by unifying the very tongues God once scattered, and the question that might reframe your whole life: what if your calling didn't start with you?

It ends with a story about Lucas's grandfather — a boy who wanted to be a priest, a healing no one could explain, and a dream that almost got forgotten — and a challenge for anyone tired of being the first to walk a hard road: somebody has to open the way, not for your sake, but for the ones coming after you.

Faith and ambition, no sacred/secular divide. Pull up a seat.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Can you build a brand without a king? Because if the key if the Lord Jesus Christ is not at the center of whatever we are building, that's a problem. And I am not saying you have to be, if you are a business owner, you are have to build a Christian company, right? It's a non-profit. That's not what I'm saying at all. What I am saying is that at your heart, as the owner, as the CEO, as the manager, as whatever you do, as a speaker, as the head of the brand, whatever you were building, if your heart is not set, Jesus said. It is November 17th, 2025, the day of this recording. To be honest with you guys, I am a little tired today. You know what? Guess what I was doing yesterday? I was re-watching Stranger Things. Because you know, yeah, uh season five is about I know it's about to come. Is it Thanksgiving Day? I think it's Wednesday, the 26th. It's Wednesday the 26th. Oh, that's actually very smart because like all the families come over, you know. Like, I mean, all the cousins are together, such a vibe, and watching Stranger Things right before, like for sure, people gonna just like watch the whole thing during Thanksgiving week. So, anyways, I started watching, dude. I already watched, I already watched six episodes in three days, which is not a lot, but it's a lot at the same time. But I mean, I I I'm just excited for season five. Uh, but I'm excited for today as well. We are gonna talk about very it's a very deep topic, very deep topic, because a few episodes ago we're talking about the first mentioned principle. And basically, just to recap, the first mentioned principle, uh, it's a principle to understand scriptures better. So every time a theme repeats in the text, uh, such as grace, for example, such as worship, right? We were talking about the knowledge of worship before. In order to understand the theme, we gotta go back to the first time the theme was introduced. So in the case of worship, it will be Genesis 2.15. Right, in the case of sin, it will be Genesis 3, so forth and so on. What about in the case of calling? What about that? Yeah, we do have the the the we have the purpose of God for mankind. And we talked about it in Genesis 2 and Genesis 1, 26 through 28, Genesis 2 and all that. But what about after sin? When was the first time that mankind was called after sin? Because now it becomes a pattern for us for sure. It's post sin. Uh, and Abraham is the guy. In fact, one thing about Abraham that is interesting, and we're gonna that's what we're gonna be talking about uh today, and we do want to spend a lot of time talking about Abraham because I I would propose, and even I hope I remember this, but I would like to call this episode the anatomy of Abraham's calling. Because I believe there's a framework there to understand our own calling and how God calls us out of the place of comfort, out of the place of brokenness and out of dryness, out of settling, it's often caused by yes ourselves and we have full responsibility, and we will get to this, but it many times caused by where we grew up and our upbringing, and our family of origin, right? And and of course, deep down there is the consequence of the first of the very first sin that is ingrained in all of us. So, in other words, every human being, despite your condition, you could have been, you're listening to me, you could have been brought born in the best condition in the world, but you were still born in a condition of dryness because of your father Adam, you know. So uh we'll talk about that today. The anatomy of Abraham Scholar. But so I'm here again, DeMarcus, good friend. Uh, he's producing for us. Tayu, how are you doing, by the way?

SPEAKER_01 4:55

I'm well, brother. I probably could have used a little bit more sleep, but all of us, man.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

That's like story of my life. Yeah, I'm happy to be here though. Good well, good, very good. Uh let's start reading the Bible. Let's do it. Okay. Before Genesis 12, we gotta read Genesis 11. One thing about Abraham before, really quick, actually, one thing about the Bible. The first 11 chapters of Genesis, the way that it is written, by the way, I just want to say that immediately, like I fully believe that every piece of the text is it happened. Like, I believe in the flood, right? Like, you look at the Grand Canyon. I I dude I truly believe that the flood covered the whole earth. I believe that. Um I believe that I but I believe in everything. Things that I am totally okay with. I'm okay with God creating the world in billions of years. I don't think there's a problem. Maybe you're listening to me, you're like, what? I'm like, I that that was clear the clearly not the intention of the author of Genesis to give a scientific record of what we all of what is happening. But funny enough, I went to LA. This was actually during my honeymoon. Uh, we got a little house at the Topenga Hills, it was fun. We're like 15 minutes from Malibu Beach. It was great. But then we drove to we drove to LA, I think, and we went to this observatory, and then we walked in, and there is a bunch of there's a but there's almost like a museum like it's telling the story of the earth from different perspectives, and not different perspectives, but uh different realms, right? Like the story of uh of life in the water and life on the ground and all those things. But the funny thing is that there's like a panel, like a moral on the on on the wall that's so long, horizontal, and it's telling the story of the universe from beginning to now. Funny enough, and I remember I started saying it out loud on purpose because I wanted people to hear what I was saying. I was like, oh, that's exactly like the story of the Bible. I'm just saying it out loud. Because even like, oh, like the water came first because like before this, and you have this and that. I'm like, even the demarcations, like it's exactly Genesis. So uh Moses, um who many scholars believe, I believe. I mean, apparently Jesus said that, you know, like Moses is uh involved, the author, right, of of the Pentateuch, the first five books. Yeah, but uh Moses he does he's not writing to explain where God came from. He just assumes that people just I mean, it would be crazy to think that God is not real. So Moses knowing, I mean, he's not even thinking about the possibility of people not believing God, he's just naming the real God Yahweh. He is who he is. That's the he's not the God the moon, he's not God the sun, he's not God uh the tree, he's he is who he is. He's in a category all by himself. That is the God that created all things. He didn't create just the moon, he didn't create just the ocean, he created actually all things. That is really his ideas. So, in other words, the first 11 chapters of the Bible, it's almost like this big overview, is this uh panoramic, this uh uh uh uh almost like you get in a helicopter and you go up and you show this entire picture. He's not there's not really all the details that are there, they matter so much, but they are not all the details, right?

SPEAKER_01 8:51

Yes, I it's funny that you're starting like this. There's uh a theologian, I believe I that's what I would call him. His name's John Walton. He's he's basically what uh the way I've heard it described to the way it was described to me as what NT right is to the New Testament. This John Walton fellow is is that for Genesis specifically. Okay. But he makes this comment. Uh I was just reading or uh watching this this YouTube video to just a teaching that he does at this school on Genesis 1 and 2. And he says the text is not concerned about the existence of matter. Like he that's what he's not saying. He's like, it's not that's not what it is. It it's more so God is establishing order in the way the acts of creation that he's tapping into is he's naming and separating things and bringing order to this matter. That's what we get a chance to see, if that makes sense. Huge. You know, so so I think with in light of what you're saying, like it's it's I I I like how a pastor is saying it, um, has been saying it that I've been around recently. He says the text cannot mean to us what it never meant to them, you know, and so he so when you go into Genesis and you're hearing these things being described and the language being used, we're trying to assign like they didn't know the sun the way that we know the sun. Exactly. They didn't know the moon the way that we know the moon, they would never describe these things, exactly. You know, so we see them in like, okay, we're in the solar system and we know that it's oh it we at for a time we thought it was the center of the universe, then we, you know, all these different things. Exactly. And then then what you realized is that they see it as lights, you know, or whatever it is, right? Going down and down. So does that make sense?

SPEAKER_00 10:40

Dude, that makes perfect sense. In fact, uh just a parenthesis here based on what you were saying. Uh who gives meaning to the text? Who you're so you're reading the Bible.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

Where does meaning lies? Does meaning lies on the intention of the author? Does meaning lies on the writing itself? Or does meaning right does meaning lies on the interpretation of the reader? We got, I mean, a lot of people for this is a silly thing, but you know when you are in a by like a like in a small group or you're talking to a friend, and then there's always a question, oh like what does this verse mean to you? Yeah, I think that's a problematic question. Yeah, what do you mean? What does the verse mean to you? There's one meaning for that verse, it only one, not multiple meanings. Now, how does the verse apply to you? Now that's a different that's a different story. Yes, because there's an application for your life for your life, right? Like you understand what he what it means, but then you keep you keep thinking about it, and you're like, oh wow. So the same way that uh David killed a giant, now Jesus himself is killing the giants in my life. Ah, you thought that I would say that you were the David, right? I would never say that because you and I are not David. Right. We are not killing the giant, we don't have the power to kill the giants of our life. Yeah, it is Jesus that is killing the giants.

SPEAKER_01 12:19

Yeah, we are not the focus of scripture.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

Exactly, exactly. God is easy, is the journey of him as the hero. Yes. Uh so meaning lies, and that's that's interesting we can do a whole thing on this alone, but like meaning is meaning. I would propose that it is in the intersection of the meaning of the author and the meaning of the writing itself. Because, for example, uh, I don't think when Moses was writing about Melchizedek in Genesis, I believe it's Genesis 14, maybe it's like on though on like around that, I don't think he was writing that and thinking everything that the author of Hebrews draw from in Hebrews 7. I don't think Moses is thinking about that. How often, like prophetic words later on, the way that they are fulfilled, like it's crazy. That's that's what literally uh uh drives the Pharisees nuts because they are like, oh my gosh, like we it's so it's crazy. Yeah, but in other words, like the meaning of the writing itself, like God is inspiring people, they have an intent in the writing, so their intent matters so much, but that which they are that which they are writing, that writing itself now, man, has there's so much there that not even the author is can think on all the possible dimensions. Yeah, they can think on on a big chunk, and we need to understand that. So the author's intent matters extremely. But the words, I'm you know, that but here's it that my but here's the thing now. Now that's why we have to be careful, because we have to be careful in when we are analyzing, we cannot think within ourselves, oh, but the writing has so much meaning that now I get to I I get to have this revelation of meaning that nobody else in world history ever had. That's another problem. Yes, because all the all because it's almost like it's get this, it's almost like the writing from the people in the old testament. They have all they they they they have all this messianic meaning that is awaiting for the messiah to be revealed, so that which needed to be fully unlocked and fully revealed now is fully unlocked and fully revealed. And the apostles can write upon and and build, by the way, in Ephesians, the letter of Paul to the Ephesians, he says that the church itself is built upon the foundation of apostles, the authors of the New Testament, and the prophets, the authors of the old testament, with Jesus himself as the cornerstone. So now us in 2025, when we read the Bible, oh my gosh, like all that meaning, it's not up to us to make up. We got if I've heard somebody saying, if we are hearing something that nobody else in world history, every thought on that meaning, uh, are we read are we really hearing from God, or is just our minds kind of like, you know, so if we got to be faithful to what the text is saying. What is fascinating is like from Genesis 1 through 11, it's the it's not a it's there's not a lot of details, even though everything that is saying there it happened actually historically, but there's not a lot of details. One thing that there is this this this point in the scriptures where things start being narrated as history. So Abraham, as we know in Genesis 12, the way that is described, so you see the story of Abraham as a man who he literally he was so he had a wife, and then he didn't have a child, he didn't have kids, and you tell like the Bible tells his age, and it tells him doing like uh uh making wealth, and uh uh he goes to war with kings, and so all of those details is a part of historical narrative, as we know, right? So Abraham is the the archetype, if you will, of a historical figure in the ancient world. So the way that is that there is a clear difference from the first 11 chapters of Genesis, from chapter 12 and forward, from Abraham on, Abraham becomes this archetype for how history is gonna be starting to build upon. In fact, Abraham himself is the father of Israel, like he is the patriarch, uh, the main patriarch. Hebrews chapter 1 says that in the in the past, God spoke many times through the fathers, and Abraham being the main one, right? God is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in that order, Abraham first, and we'll talk about him. Uh Ed, do you have anything so far before I go to before I jump to Genesis 11?

SPEAKER_01 17:24

I have a ton of stuff running through my mind, but I want to hear Genesis 11.

SPEAKER_00 17:28

Okay, let's do it. Genesis 11. And again, the very last chapter of the 11 chapters in which the view, everything happened, but the view is presented as is a is a is a big overview, right? Of of how things happened. And by the way, I'm not really concerned with time. Let me just let me just say this. Uh, you will look at those 11 chapters and you could divide them in this manner uh the creation of the world, number one, number two, the creation of mankind, number three, the fall. Number four, the very first consequence of the fall, which was murder. Number five, you have uh uh you have this distinction of line, of law, of lineages. One lineage is the lineage of those who are unfaithful, and the other lineage is the lineage of those who seek the Lord. So from that moment on, you see God preserving the lineage of those who seek Him all the way up to Abraham. In between, you have the flood, you have the story of Noah and all that, and the interesting thing is that when Noah's Ark rests on the Mount I on the Mount Eret, which by the way, there's a lot of seems to be a lot of evidence on people finding the people apparently found the ark at Mount Eret in Turkey. Exactly the exact location where the Bible says that he landed. Have you guys seen this at all? No, you haven't seen this. So this is interesting. You guys can look it up later. Uh, there was, I think it was in the 70s, this uh this group of archaeologists they were uh in the Mount and at Mount Eret in Turkey, and the Bible says that he rested at Mount Eret at that region, right? In Mesopotamia, like that region. Uh uh, you will see uh uh they found something interesting. They were doing some excavations and they've realized that there it at a certain portion. Number one, there was a different type of elevation, it was weird. They that's why they started excavating, even because it didn't look like it was natural, it looked like there was something ancient underneath. And then as they are excavating, they realize that they was that there was some biological matter uh there that was preserved in certain way, almost like animals have died, or like something weird like that. Like I don't know how to explain it, but to make a long story short, they started excavating and they found like the the it is the shape of a boat. And like they did, like they found uh uh uh uh they did uh I think it's the carbon 14, whatever, like the date goes all the way back. It's super fascinating. So it seems they found the ark, long story short. Yeah, and then you have and then right after Noah, Kanoah and his family comes out of the ark, God gives them the mandate again to be fruitful and multiply. Same mandate from Genesis 1, 26 to 28. Yep. And then we stop at the Tower of Babel. And the Tower of Babel is the intersection between is the intersection of history. Now you have this point in time where God said I I I'm taking the reins in my hands and I am gonna reshape history in a particular way through an individual. And that individual will become a community the way that I intended for Adam and Eve to be. What does that mean? The name Adam means humanity. So God creates the first individual already thinking in the collective. God calls Abraham already thinking in the collective, and that is necessary to understand calling. One of the biggest lies in the Western world is that a calling, a purpose is so individualistic. You are such the hero of your journey. You don't need anybody else. And if you need people, it is for your own sake, right? It is for the sake of what you are building, is what you is you, right? Like you, all of your friends now become your network, even though networking is extremely important. If you only see people as networking opportunities, that is a big problem, right? And anyways, let's go to Genesis 11. Let's do it. Genesis 11 starting on verse 1. Now the whole earth had one language and the same words. And as people migrated from the east, they found a plain in the land of Shinnar and settled. There. Word settled here is important. Why? Because it is going to repeat itself again at the end of chapter 11. They settle there. And they said to one another, Come, let us make bricks and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone and bitumen for more. And they said, Come, let us let us let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its stop in the heavens. And let us make a name for ourselves. Lists will be dispersed over the face of the whole earth. A little curiosity before we move on. Where did the idea of building a tower came from? Do you have any idea?

SPEAKER_01 22:54

No, Lucas, I don't. Tell me.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

I was reading this article one day. Some historians, some archaeologists, uh they found the first structures of towers being built around around the region of Mesopotamia, you know, Asia, like that. Where the story of the Bible emerges from. Jericho, I believed. I believe. And one of the theories, it seems like, is that they were building towers because they were afraid of rain and flood. Isn't it funny that the destroyed of the Tower of Babel happens right after the story of Noah's Ark? Isn't it also fun? I don't know if you guys know this, but uh uh if there is one ancient story that repeats itself in pretty much every single ancient tradition, is the flood. Yes. Every ancient tradition from the um uh Mayans and Incas and Aztecas and and the the and the uh the Babylonians and and the Hebrews, every the Egyptians, everybody has a flood story. Yes, there is there were there there was a god or gods, and they were punishing the earth and and a family was rescued. Every story, every ancient story has the story of the flood. Why was why is that? Well, I would propose to you that I mean right after the Noah's Ark, people were freaking out of another flood. So now the idea of building towers just a reality because they want to protect themselves. The story of the Tower of Babel is a little bit different. We know that at the end of the story of the Tower of Babel, what God does is that you you see that in the beginning, like they can, they are able to build this because they can they can communicate. As we keep reading through it, you will see. Let me even let me even go there. You will see, and the Lord came down to see this, to see the city, verse five, uh and the tower, which the children of man had built, and the Lord said, Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language, and this is only the beginning of what they will do, and nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them. There's a huge principle there. The Lord looks at a city and he's like, The people are one and they can communicate clearly, nothing is impossible for them. Parenthesis, you are building what so here's my question for you. You're listening to us, and for you guys too. What are you building? If you can build a team around and you guys can have a common uh you have a you can't you guys can have a common language and you can understand one another, and you stay unified, nothing will be impossible for you. Why was God frustrated at that? Because the spirit that was breathing upon that unity was demonic. There was a demonic uh uh uh inspiration, if you will. They were trying to build a name for themselves, they were trying to reach the heavens, meaning the whole thing was about that. Was the beginning of empires, that was the beginning of so it's it's funny because it's called Babel, right? You have later on, like how many times the Bible will refer to Babylonia, Babylon, like the whole idea. So, for example, Revelation. A lot of people think that the book of Revelation is a book about the end of times, it's not about the end of times, it's the book about God revealing is uh is the revelation of Jesus Himself and how Jesus overthrows every single world empire until the kingdoms of this world become the kingdom of our Lord and Savior. That's it, that's the revelation. It's not uh it's not about the end of times, it's about Jesus being king despite all the empires that rise and fall, and every single empire rises and falls. Maybe you're listening to us right now, and uh, I mean, like you you will know by the way that I talk. Like I I I mean, I I was born and raised in Brazil, but I love the US, man. I love this country. Uh, politically speaking, like I will for sure like be conservative. I mean, that's a that's a fact. But here's the reality: uh, my hope is not in the American Empire, my hope is in the kingdom of God. So I I and I'll be honest with you guys, I have I have spent hours like googling and reading stuff and reading books about the fall, the rise and fall of the Roman Empire and uh the parallels with the American Empire, and and and and and for a while I felt low-key terrified. I was like, oh my gosh, like I don't want I don't want our country to fall. I think this is here's the reality. Number one, I I think I think uh this is my belief. I do think that we have enough Christians. That's my hope at least. That's my hope. We have enough followers of Jesus Christ in this country to preserve the nation. Preserve how so Lot's wife, right? Sodom and Gomorrah. Remember the like Lot's wife when they walked out, she be she looks behind, she looks backwards, becomes a statue of salt. Why does she become a statue of salt? Because it's a prophetic statement of she became what she was supposed to have been in the city, salt to preserve the city. Jesus said, You are salt and light. Light, you are light is this transcendent thing that it's the speak, is the speech of the gospel that transforms the heart. But salt is tangible, salt is on the ground, salt is everywhere, and we are supposed to not only speak the revelation of the gospel and live from that revelation, but we are supposed to also be in the world. We are there. We talked about this. There's no separation, we are in the midst of the world preserving it. I think we have people in this country that are preserved. I think we are only here, honestly, because there are people that are preserving the very fabric of this country. And I hope, I hope God has mercy on us. I think he had something to say.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

Yes. You you had introduced a word that I don't think we have um had you say until this time. You had said this word demonic. And I I want to hear a little bit more of that in context as all of all of this, because you know, you're you're talking about this story of Bab this to the Tower of Babel. And in one sense, one could say it's it's like, oh well, it it makes sense, right? They went through this flood and now they're building this thing. Why what makes this pursuit demonic? You know, what makes what makes because obviously I'm I'm in agreement with you, you know, but I'm curious, like I want you to go deeper on that word. Does that make sense what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_00 30:00

Absolutely, absolutely. First mentioned principle again. When is or where is the idea of the demonic first introduced in the Bible? Genesis 3. And what is the first temptation? First temptation is you have the serpent of the Satan, and he proposes this lie to mankind. You're like, eat it. If you eat the fruit, your eyes will be open and you will be like God. The first temptation is to be like God. Without the owner of heaven, is to build a kingdom without a king. That that that's it, is to build a kingdom without a king. And and I pause here and I ask the question are you, listeners, are you trying to build a kingdom without a king? Can you build a brand for yourself? Of course you can. Of course. Can you build a brand without a king? Because if the key, if the Lord Jesus Christ is not at the center of whatever we are building, that's a problem. And I am not saying you have to be, if you are a business owner, you are you have to build a Christian company, right? It's a non-profit. That's not what I'm saying at all. What I am saying is that at your heart, as the owner, as the CEO, as the manager, as whatever you do, as the speaker, as the head of the brand, the whatever you are building, if your heart is not centered in Jesus and you truly want to build something from a place of worship. Remember, work is worship. I am building for the glory of God and the flourishment of civilization. If that is not at the heart of the owner and of the head of the brand, the influence, whatever you are trying to build, then the influence is demonic because you are not trying to build for the sake of the Lord and what he's doing on earth. You are trying to build for the sake of self without taking God into not just consideration, but without giving glory to him. The tower of Babel, the spirit that is empowering that is demonic. Why? Because they are not taking the Lord into consideration whatsoever. Instead, they are just repeating the pattern of I want to be like God. I want to build a tower, I want to build a name for ourselves, a name of safety. Why did they settle and build a tower to reach heaven? It's so they don't need God anymore. They are settling at a place where they can reach the divine on their own, and they did they can reach influence and affluence and wealth all in their own, forgetting that it is the Lord who gives you power to build blank, to build anything. That's why it is demonic.

SPEAKER_01 33:00

I I genuinely I appreciate you saying that. You know, there's um I I grew up in church. Yeah. And there's a when I hear that word demonic, there's a there's like a natural level of fear that wants to creep into me. You know, because it's it seems so much bigger than me. It seems so, you know, you you there's certain movie images that pop into my mind, there's different stories, and but I think the way that you just articulated that, it it I think it's that idea of who's really Lord over my life, who's really king over the things that I'm building? I think that really matters.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

You know what's fascinating? Uh, in Genesis 3, when the Lord is pronouncing the judgment over the serpent, over the Satan, one of the pronouncements is that it will be eating dirt for the rest of its life. What does that mean though? What does that mean for a serpent to eat dirt for the rest of its life? Where did man come from? He came from dirt. The idea is that demons will be preying off the selfishness of human beings forever. Wow. So what feeds the evil one? Human selfishness. Wow. So that that's that's another way that we can understand sin in the modern world. Right? Pastor Jazz, who is my senior pastor, he talks about that often. He's a brilliant man, and I've heard him say multiple times of how selfishness that's a good way of interacting with people and to talk about sin because sometimes you say the word sin. If you didn't grow up in church, it's hard for you to understand. Selfishness, everybody gets it. And demonic entities will prey on our selfishness. So, do you want to give your mind to any type of demonic entity? Start being selfish. And what is the antidote for that? Is faithfulness to God and to people. And in order to be faithful, selfishness has to be killed. I remember when I had my daughter, a lot of people would always ask me, especially in the beginning, what changed? My first answer, always my answer, is I realize how selfish I was, as how selfish I must stop being for the sake of the little one. And Jesus said when he looks at Simon Peter, he looks at Peter in order to restore Peter. What does he tell Peter? He's like, Do you love me, Peter? Feed my lamb. Feed the little, feed my little lambs, feel feed the little ones. Do you love me? Prove the love by not being selfish and taking care of the least of these. That is how you prove your love. That is not what they were building in the Tower of Babel. Now, you want to know it's fascinating. And that probably the majority, I'm sure the majority of people listening to us are Christians. So you know what I'm talking about. You guys know when in Acts chapter 2, when the Holy Spirit falls upon the 120, what happens when the Holy Spirit falls upon the 120? They all start speaking in heavenly in tongues. And then people outside from different countries with different languages, they all start understanding. In other words, what God punished in the Tower of Babel by spreading the tongues, He restores in X2 by unifying the tongues.

SPEAKER_01 36:32

It's beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 36:33

In the Tower of Babel, they were trying to build a tower without God in X2. The Spirit of God is inspiring mankind to be in one accord to build another tower called the church. This one will never fail because it is built upon the foundation of Jesus. It's beautiful. So that is the idea. Now, uh check this out. This is fascinating. As we move on, and I'm sure we probably not even gonna get to Abraham today. We're gonna get to Abraham in another episode, but this is this is fascinating. So their languages are dispersed, so they're trying to build this tower and and it doesn't work out. The story right after that is the story, so there's a genealogy story, and often how often we skip their genealogies, right? Like we you know, like we don't. I'm like, man, I don't want to know, like, oh, the uh when Shane was a hundred years old, he fought like I don't want to do like this is crazy. But look how fascinating this is. After the generations of the Tower of Babel, right, after the language were dispersed and God spread people all throughout the earth, uh, you you see this. Uh Terah took it actually, I'm gonna start reading from verse 27, Genesis 11, 27. Now, these are the generations of Terah. Terah fathered Abraham. So from now on, I'm gonna start referring like referring to this guy as Abram, not Abraham, even though same person, name changed. We'll get to that in a minute. Terah fathered Abram, Nahor and Haran. And Haran fathered Lot. Haran died in the presence of his father, Terah, in the land of his kindred, in Ur of the Chaldeans. And Abram and Nahor took wives. The name of Abram's wife was Sarai. Her name was changed to Sarah later on, but Sarai. And the name of Nahor's wife, Milkah, the daughter of Haran, the father of Milkah and Issah. Now, Sarai was barren, she had no child. This matters so much, especially when we talk about the meaning of the name Abram versus the meaning of the name Abraham. Terah took, and this is where I want to land, Terah took Abram, his son, and Lot, the son of Haran, his grandson, and Sarai, his daughter-in-law, his son Abram's wife, and they went forth together from Ur of the Chaldeans to go into the land of Canaan. But when they came to Haran, they here comes our word, they settled. When was the last time that they settled? It was when they found a land to build a name for themselves. They settled. Every time we settle, we will fall prey to some type of demonic activity. When I say settled, I don't say I don't say you become content. That's not what I'm saying. Yes. I am not saying you become content, like you become content with your house, you become that's not what I'm saying at all. Become content with your profession this is being content. This is great. What I am saying is you become settled in your pursuit. When your pursuit, when you settle, your pursuit is done. That's a problem. Because there's something in the human psychological makeup, there's something in the human spirit that is unsettled, which is we are aching and crying out for God to make all things new. And there is nothing in this world that will never get us even close to it. So there's no way to settle until God makes all things new. And I propose that even when God makes all things new, we will spend the rest of eternity finding out new ways about how God thinks is what the author of uh uh uh Ephesians, uh Paul says the multifold, the many faced, the many facets of this infinite diamond that is God's wisdom, who never fully comprehend, we will never will never fully get, we will always be journeying in God, if you will. But in a way, the eternal the eternal unsettling is done once all things are new, but on this earth we need to live like we cannot settle. We are always pursuing, always funny enough. I'm excited for my Spotify wrap-up. You know why? Why, bro? Because I already know what my uh my genre will be. It's been the same for, I mean, probably since I got Spotify. It's a funny word, wistful. And one of the meanings of wistful is the longing for something you don't even know. There's a longing, it's nostalgic. You know, it's like it's called like cold play will be wistful. In my place, in my place. It's so like it's like a movie soundtrack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like it's raining, but then the sunset. Yeah, and then you're looking for something, you don't know what it is. You're it's unsettled. That's my that's my music genre. Yeah, so I I can't wait for my Spotify wrap-up because I know what is coming is the same thing. And I propose that every human being needs to have that because the moment we settle is the moment that we are going to try to build out of our own strength. That's the tower of Babel paradigm. Tara, who was Abram's dad, did the same thing. Funny enough about Terah is that the Bible says, I believe in Joshua. And there are other parts of the Bible too. But the the idea is you can clearly see even from Genesis 11, that, and I'm just gonna touch on this now, and then we we I think we passed 40 minutes already, 42 minutes. We'll get to that on another episode, but just to just to kind of start getting there. Tera is uh leaving or of the Chaldeans to go to Canaan, which is fascinating because I've always thought. That God called Abraham, and Abram is going to the promised land. Canaan is the promised land, is the land of milk and honey. It's the land of there's something there. We are going to that land. There's something there. It didn't start with Abraham. So I know we called God the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but perhaps if Terah had not settled, the story would have been different. Maybe it wouldn't be the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. Maybe it would be the God of Tarah, Abraham and Isaac. I mean, just proposing this. I mean, this is just me overthinking, but and I'm saying this because it didn't start with the calling did not start with Abram. We can talk about this later, but one a little story before we close in prayer. I remember, I think this was 2017, I was talking to my grandfather. He he was born in Brazil, but he's Italian descendant. My last name is Cecilio, so that's an Italian last name. Heard about all the coffee stuff that was going on, probably some gold thing, gold rush in Brazil, something like that. And he left Italy, went to Rio. The big city went to Rio. Rio was it was the pristine city back in the day. It still is, but now there's a lot of stuff going on there. But, anyways, goes to Rio, he meets my great grandmother, right? Who who is was from who is from Germany, right? So this Italian man meets a German lady, and they together have my great-grandpa and now I have my grandfather. And my grandpa was telling me that when he was in middle school, he really wanted to be a priest. I didn't know that. It shocked me. He shook me. He told me he was like that, Lucas. I wanted to be a priest. In fact, there was a priest, a Catholic priest, that went to my school. This is my grandfather saying, and he was trying to find people that would want to study under him as at this at this church. And I really wanted to be to grow up to be a priest. Didn't want to get married, wanted to be a priest. And he was like, Yeah, I wanted to be a missionary, wanted to preach the gospel. And I'm listening to my grandpa. Oh, you gotta understand something about my grandfather. He's a funny man, he's an awesome man, a brilliant guy. But one thing about my grandpa, he saw his wife, my grandmother, had cancer in her lungs back when I was in middle school. Yeah. That was the first time that I saw my grandpa, my that I saw my father, who is my grandfather's son, crying like ball in his eyes. First time I saw my father that way, my dad. And uh crazy enough, the church started praying for my grandma. Uh, get the ultrasound, get all the stuff in the air praying, the air anointing with all my grandma is in the hospital. I remember it got to the point it was so bad that people could not visit. They could if that may even my grandfather they could only he could only go into the room with a mask because it was smelling so bad. She was almost dying.

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Yeah.

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Like that it was, I don't know, potrified. I don't know what was going on the term, but it was bad. Sure. But then one day, my grandma, she had a dream, has a dream. She has a dream that this guy walking in this really white clothing and kind of shining, walks into the room, sits by her side bed, uh by her the the side of her bed and looks at her. And he's like, Hey Maria, uh are you are you are you warm? I'm a little warm. May I turn on the fan? Absolutely. He turns on the fan, and then he said, You're gonna be okay. Yeah, I hope so. And she wakes up. There's no smell anymore. She's healed. Wow. The case became a study case in my hometown. They did uh they did a bunch of stuff on her, like they tried to see what they were missing, like I think five, six, seven times. Couldn't find it. The cancer was gone and is gone to this day. I was talking to my grandma last week, she's alive. For a few, I say this to tell you about my grandfather. My grandpa, a few months goes by. In the beginning, he was like, Oh, God did a miracle. A few months go by. And he started saying that, oh, if it wasn't for my money to heal her, what happened, grandpa? What happened? Right? Like, I mean, now, I mean, 15, 17, I don't know, 20 years later, I'm sure he would he would mix that with God. He would say, Oh no, God, I'm I'm glad that God gave me money to pay for the treatment. But what about the story that I just shared, which was absolutely supernatural? Where is that story? I remember, but I think they forgot. If I mentioned to them, they will remember, but my grandpa will believe that if it wasn't for his money, probably my grandma would have died. What happened to the man that when he was in middle school wanted to be a priest? Funny enough, I'm a pastor today. But what if it didn't start with me? What if whatever you were trying to do, you were listening to me, and I'm gonna we're gonna close in prayer now. What if what you were trying to build now didn't start with you? Wow. What if you were trying, what if you were, what if you are struggling to build things right now because your dad, because your grandfather was trying to build something and couldn't get there for whatever reason. And now it sucks being the first. But somebody has to be for the sake of your children, not for your sake. That's correct. For the sake of your children, for the sake of your grandchildren, for the sake of a path that is big that is it's more vast and it's better to walk so your generation don't settle. Somebody has to open a way so people after so you don't settle, but people after you don't settle, even in an easier way, they keep on walking. What if the struggle is so real because people before you something something happened? I remember with my green the case of my grandfather, his mom, my great grandma, told him, uh, no, son, that's okay. Like you should just continue. Just a normal case of life, and he ended up forgetting the dream. I'm I mean, I'm glad that he ended up getting married to my grandma, had my dad, and I'm here today. But it seems that God has not forgotten the desire that he had to be some sort of religious preacher, which is fascinating to me. We are here at 15 minutes. Do you have any final comments, my friend?

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Uh no, I look forward to the next episode. I'm excited. Me too. I'm very excited. Thank you for this.

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Absolutely, Father God. We ask you to allow us to pursue you in a way that we will never, never, ever settle. Help us to be faithful with the very thing that you have entrusted us with. Do not let a dream that can easily pass hinder the mission that you have for us. In Jesus' name. Amen. Thank you, everybody. If you are not subscribed, please do it so. Uh, if this episode really spoke to you, please forward to a friend, like, comment, post on Instagram, TikTok, wherever you want. And I will see you guys on episode six. Have a good one. Bye.